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13Bosch Serie 8 Heat Pump Tumble Dryers

Bosch Serie 8 Heat Pump Tumble Dryers

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1 Hayden B.  · This is the worst pile of junk I have ever purchased. Literally.
4 Ladan  · I am happy with this product – This dryer is perfect for my family. It is so gentle with our outfits.
4 Merv  · Just made my life easier – Easy to use and very efficient. I highly recommend this dryer.
1 Anon  · Terrible! – This just does not dry. Bedding (read all other reviews) just gets knotted ... so tightly on occasion it has taken me half an hour just to unknot.
1 Joanne  · waste of money – Never completely dry clothes and knots bedding so there are constantly wet patches.
Andrei C
Andrei CVIC7 posts
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The Good, the Bad and the Ugly... It works, for a while – Bought this just over 2 years ago from E&S trading and it worked well for the first 18 months. The drying fuctions could be explained better in the manual and most of the issues people have with clothes not drying (AT THE START) is mostly user error rather than the appliance itself. It has a lot of settings and each of those can be tweaked to… Read more

control the drying level etc. While it works, it works well. It dries very well and it isn't overly loud. And the best thing is the fact that it doesn't turn your laundry into a sauna like the usual vented dryers. However, and this is a big issue. It does NOT last. For Bosch made in Germany product, there is a massive flaw in it. As noted by quite a few people here, it WILL fail. It isn't a matter of if, it's a matter of when. And it usually does it about 12-24 months down the line. The issues is that the dryer starts stopping all the time saying the condensation container is full when it isn't. Initally it was intermittent and only happened after about 30-60 minutes. As times went on, and now at 25 months for us, it is essentially unusable because it stops every 5 - 10 minutes complaining about a full condensation container. We have cleaning all we can and it it still doing it. I suspect the self cleaning function eventully blocks the system with lint and then the return water tubing gets blocked also. I can't see a water level sensor where the condensation container is situated so it's probably a pressure related issues. This issue started at the 18 months mark for us and just got worse. SO two years down the line we have a $1400 dryer that doesn't work. UNLESS you disconnect the internal condensation drain and use the external drain tubing. Might work for some but not for everyon and it still doesn't explain the number of failures noted here at roughly the same time frame. Bosch obviously has a design issue with this. I have emailed them on the email noted below and they have not responded as yet which is really pathetic. I have tried calling but the number rang out or was on hold for 45 minutes and gave up. My suggestion is AVOID this thing like the plague unless you can externally drain the condensation or you are happy to spend a lot of $$$ on repairs in about a year or two. Sadly, I had a lot of confidence in Bosch prior to this purchase and most of the other Bosch appliances we have are flawless.

Andrei C
Andrei C   

That review is now 6v years old. The fix was to have dryer empty into sink rather than its own… Read more (+1 reply)

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Liarne M.
Liarne M.NSW4 posts
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Absolute rubbish DO NOT BUY a dryer from Bosch ours was 2.5 years old and filled with lint potential to start a fire in our house and we had it repaired costing $280 and then the repair man said these are renowned for this. It worked ok for about 18 months then same thing happend and hubby pulled the back off it and it was again full of lint. … Read more

As we pulled the back of it Bosch said too sad bad luck - we can offer a discount of a new machine I am like well why would I buy a new machine when this could happen again as this is not fit for purpose, Currently lodged with Fair Trading and we will see what they say but my advice DO NOT BUY BOSCH, Luckiy I own a kitchen business and have saved many clients from the same fate as me and advised them against Bosch

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Socorro V.
Socorro V.2 posts
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We really love our new kitchen and Laundry! Jeremiah and Stuart did an amazing Job, they always checking us if theres any other issues and solve it straight away. We would highly recommend them. Show details

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Mirco C.
Mirco C.VIC5 posts
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Amazing drier – This review is made after 4 years of using the product everyday Show details ·  1

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Kent Lockyer Valley Qld
Kent Lockyer Valley Qld5 posts
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Bosch 9kg Heat Pump Tumble Dryer expensive mistake? – I like Bosch for reliability and quality. I use this dryer 2-3 times a day, 4 days a week to dry towels in a massage business. It comfortably fits 6 bath sheets and numerous hand towels. Unfortunately a couple of months into owning the dryer it just wouldn’t dry, sometimes taking 5hrs and still towels were quite damp and needed hanging up to air… Read more ·  1

dry. I tried different settings and nothing improved. I cleaned the filters after each load, cleaned the moisture sensor and that didn’t help. I then started washing the filters with liquid soap and water and leaving them out to dry at the end of the day, and since then a big load of washing is nice and dry in about 2hrs. I’ve owned the dryer for 7yrs and it is still looking good and working well. This dryer is excellent, massive 9kg capacity, easy to use controls, large opening into the dryer, very cool venting of the condenser dryer air. A bit expensive but well worth the money.

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Mel_jade
Mel_jadeVIC12 posts
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Recommended - if you take the time to understand it first! – I went down a research rabbit hole prior to deciding on this dryer. And I’m glad I did. Most of the negative reviews appear to be from people who clearly didn’t understand how to operate it. To avoid becoming one of those people, please read on. 1. Heat pump dryers are…slow ---------------------------- Yes, they take time. If you’re the sort of… Read more

person who likes throw clothes in there and have them dry quickly, this isn’t the product for you.

2. It may need some help ----------------------- If you have sheets in there, they may get tangled. If you notice this happening, simply opening it and unravelling the sheets will help the drying process progress nicely. Throwing sheets in with other items can also prevent this from happening.

3. Use the right setting --------------------- Ensuring the dryer is set to maximum 'drying level' will mean they keep of tumbling until they’re nice and toasty.

4. Get it plumbed in (if you can) ----------------------------- As heat pumps extract water from your clothes to dry them, you'll end up with water to empty at the end of the cycle. If you don't have it plumbed in, you can empty the water from a little, easy to access container. However, if you're fortunate enough, like me, to be installing the appliance during renovations, it's definitely worth having your plumber connect it to your plumbing so that it's automatically expelled, with your washing machine water. Very handy!

5. There’s lots to like about this dryer ----------------------------------- I love that due to the high energy efficiency, I don’t feel guilty running it when there’s no solar coming from our panels. Plus, it’s so quiet that there are no issues with disturbing our sleeping children. Maintenance is also very simple, with the filter at the front in a double basket that catches lots of lint and makes it easy to empty.

The dryer treats our clothes well - and given it's so gentle, I've been known to throw things in there that are labelled with the dreaded 'no tumble dry' sign, without any issues. It has a nice internal light that makes it less likely to end up with rogue socks. And it’s a bonus that it looks so pretty alongside our matching Bosch washing machine.

I am pleased we invested in this dryer. It isn't cheap, but if your budget allows, I recommend it.

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Paul G.
Paul G.WA5 posts
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Superb product – This is a high quality dryer and is worth the price. It dries a load in 1 hour that used to take out conventional dryer over 2 hours to do. As expected from Bosch Series 8, exceptional quality. Show details

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Carolyn
Carolyn4 posts
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I have held off writing this review as I feel it will be ignored by Bosch and I will still be stuck with the expense of having to buy another expensive clothes dryer. I just hope that other buyers will be aware that this model SHOULD HAVE BEEN… Read more

RECALLED. We thought initially it was the best dryer we had ever owned but after around 2 years of service - the so-called self cleaning function did not work, leaving us with a permanently musty/mildewy smell that originates from excess water left to combine with lint at the bottom of this machine.

Yes - we had it plumbed in. Yes we cleaned the lint filters EVERY SINGLE TIME. Yes we washed and dried all filters regularly. We even emptied any amounts of water that may have collected in drawer, every single time.

After an email exchange with Bosch, were I stated I didn't need a service guy, I just wanted a replacement model where you could actually clean the bottom of the machine where excess water sits without pulling completely apart - I could only get them to send a service guy who basically told us, that yes you will have to periodically pull whole machine apart and drain and clean the water out that's left....!!!!!!! And then we had to pay him for this! He left us draining and trying to clean out smelly black water and muck - good times. He obviously didn't want to admit it was a design flaw (Bosch have since updated this model with one you can easily clean). So we then switched to having the water filling the drawer and emptied and cleaned EVERY SINGLE TIME - still getting the clothes coming out musty. You can't even clean the drawer properly as all parts are fixed making it impossible to get mould out of crevices etc.

So not happy. Our washing machine that we purchased at the same time (also Bosch) is great - but I have never spent this much on a dryer only to dread having to dry our clothes.

Please Bosch get in touch with me and resolve this once and for all. You know that this model is faulty, yet you have failed as a trusted company to look after your customers. Harvey Norman should also be accountable as the seller of these faulty machines. I didn't expect to have to become a service technician pulling my dryer apart every time I want clean and NICE SMELLING DRY CLOTHES.

I actually was so excited to have this dryer, it was initially quiet, dried all types of clothes beautifully and I got used to the clothes being 'cool' instead of warm but the smell is simply unbearable. I am one very, very unhappy consumer.

UPDATE: this review was held back as Bosch is supposed to review first…not a word from them. I’m not surprised just disappointed. Hard to trust so-called reputable manufacturing companies anymore. Why supply a product if you don’t back up with service excellence? Shame on you.

 Follow-up  · Latest update…BOSCH have not contacted me about my issue with their product AT ALL. I have simply stopped using it as the smell is too bad. My partner and I have simply decided that pulling it apart every month to empty the gunk from the condenser area is ridiculous and after paying a considerable amount for the dryer - not acceptable. So darn… Read more

Carolyn
Carolyn   

Hello BOSCH, Care to get in touch with me regarding helping me with my model? I see you have… Read more (+1 reply)

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Rich
Rich2 posts
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The most expensive machine on the market. Ours never worked very well. Glitchy, over-engineered digital options, items never properly dry. Then it packed up completely after 2 years. Apparently the warantee is 2 years. So thanks Bosch. I previously thought this was a premium brand. Edit: Bosch sent a service engineer for free. They then offered to replace the faulty machine for free. The only money we’ve paid is for delivery. Show details ·  1

Sash
SashNSW8 posts
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Ok so I was happy to get this heat pump dryer. The idea was save money eventually. It worked very well for three years without missing a beat but stopped drying one day suddenly. There was no indication there was an issue with it. It simply kept tossing the clothes around without drying. Since the warranty was 2 years I eventually called the… Read more

repair guy who quoted a hefty $800 ish for the board and sensor. I also own a Bosch Dishwasher as well with home connect and find its been amazing. I thought I should contact Bosch and shot them an email expressing my concern regarding cost of the fix for a 3 year old dryer. Sure enough Jack from Bosch contacted me and after a brief conversation explaining my dissatisfaction with a significant bill especially when its been well looked after( also well known issue about clothes rolling into a tight ball leaving the internal contents wet) he offered to cover the entire cost of the repair. He contacted the repair company and organized a refund of the charges etc. I eventually chose to replace the dryer with a washer/dryer from Bosch as a replacement instead which helps me save space significantly. While this product might have an issue, I have to say the company definitely cares about the customers in my experience. The 5 stars is for the company and not the product of course. Customer care personal like Jack representing the company truly make it a great experience. Will definitely be buying more Bosch products considering the very positive experience.

Salma
SalmaQLD2 posts
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This dryer is absolutely amazing if you take good care of it, it will take good care of you :)

Negative reviews

Ben O.
Ben O.QLD
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I hate this dryer! I had a Samsung $500 one before it leaves it for dead! Cycles are way too long, still doesn't dry properly, 40min one is useless, spins only one way and sheets get it a in ball. Samsung leaves it for dead and even spins both ways to stop sheets getting into a ball. Probably going to bin this one (yes even though costs a lot of $… Read more

to buy) and buy a Samsung again.

UPDATED: Bosch replied to this thread and asked me contact their support centre which I did. Discussed the issue with them and they said they will send a tech out to investigate the product. All in all, the tech came out and said there is no fault with it, charged me a stupid amount of money for the call out and said that is how the dryer is and that is how the product works. What a joke! Garbage product, I do not recommend it. Buy a Samsung for $500 as it functions way better than this junk of a product.

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Luna
LunaNSW21 posts
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Once I worked out how to use this dryer it was very efficient. It was 9 years old and had been used for only 871 hours - it was in a weekender. The Bosch service person didn't repair it after the first visit and on the return visit, said it was the condenser and not worth repairing. These visits cost $374. I would not recommend a Bosch dryer.

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SP
SPVIC5 posts
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This is our second Bosch drier. The first was great until the pump failed. That one we bought the extended product warranty from the store so was fixed under that at just under 5 years from memory. The second one is now just over 5y old and guess what… service people say it sounds like another pump fail and the cost of repair likely $500. After over a week no reply from Bosch mediation. Need to move on and get something that works. Show details

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Justin
JustinQLD
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The Bosch serie 8 heat pump dryer is an absolute POS, horrible design makes it almost impossible to clean yourself and it fails after only a couple of years, to clean the condenser of the inevitable blockage you must take literally the entire machine apart and put it all back together again. However even after I completed this arduous and… Read more

rediculous process the machine still doesn’t dry clothes, pump works, moisture sensor cleaned, still nothing. Service technicians want hundreds if not thousands of dollars to diagnose and possibly fix and Bosch are renowned for not giving a damn about our problems. It’s the single worst appliance on the market even to this day with hundreds of dissatisfied customers, avoid at all costs!

Bosch Home Appliances
Bosch Home Appliances    

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Tanya Davis
Tanya DavisVIC6 posts
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Have had this dryer for 15mths now. Paid just under 2k. Bought with the matching washer . The dryer is more of an ornament in my laundry as it’s useless and I refuse to use. It somehow twists the sheets/doona cover either with itself, or each other . If other things are in with it they also get twisted extremely tight, which means it does not… Read more

dry. I also like things to feel dry/warm this does not do the job at all. I had to buy another dryer (Westinghouse) which was under a quarter of the Bosch price. No issues, no twisting at all and things dry properly.

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Disappointed
Disappointed15 posts
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Do not purchase a Bosch heat pump dryer. The self-cleaning condenser is a faulty design and does not self clean. That’s why these heat pump driers stop drying. Purchased in October 2020. It needed its first repair due to no longer drying (disassembly to clean the condenser of the accumulated lint) in April 2024. It has needed its second repair in… Read more

July 2025. It was supposedly a return 4 days after picking it up. They picked up two 2.5 weeks ago and said the earliest they can return it is in 1 week. Terrible warranty service.

The problem is that the supposedly self-cleaning condenser is a faulty design and eventually gets clogged. That’s why it stops drying altogether. The tell tale sign is that the towels stop coming out completely dry.

The filters are cleaned on every cycle.

The repair person said both times that it is not a no-service item despite the claim. I’d have bought a condenser dryer (previous one lasted 16 years before the element burnt out) instead if I knew it would need regular repair. At least with a condenser dryer, the condenser is a serviceable item in that you can remove it to clean it.

I will be seeking a refund the next time it fails because it is false advertising stating it is a self-cleaning condenser when it is not. They made it a non-serviceable item because of that claim. The dryer needs disassembly to clean the lint that clogs it. I stupidly repaired under extended warranty last time so it is not in Bosch’s records. Otherwise, we’d have been discussing an alternative to repair.

For their top model dryer to only last 3.5 years until it no longer dried due to failure of a non-serviceable part is unacceptable.

JJL
JJLTAS13 posts
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Not the high quality you are paying for – Like many others, the door latch broke shortly out of warranty. Bosch don't sell the latch by itself. They make you buy an entire new door. We happily paid extra for this thinking it was higher quality (we always prefer to spend more to avoid enviromental waste and support high quality production). Bosch needs a much better after-sales… Read more

system - why don't they supply latches by themselves?

I hace to say, this is not worth the extra $ you spend for the "quality".

When I compare it to our Miele appliances, it isn't the same. We have had our Miele washing machine for ~10 years without a single issue.

It's a shame.

englishrose
englishroseQLD9 posts
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Very disappointed with this product. The sensor is not working so it always dries for the full time even though the clothes are dry. Also, no reverse tumble action so sheets and other bedding get rolled into a bundle and don't dry. I'm reverting to my old Simpson dryer to dry sheets, which defeats the purpose of buying a heat pump dryer! Would not recommend this product. Show details

Stephen D
Stephen D
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Disgraceful Product & Service – Bosch Has Gone Downhill Review: Bought the Bosch WTX88MH0AU/01 dryer for over $2,000. It’s failed twice in under a year with the same heating issue. Technician admitted sensor problems and said only the basic Timed Warm cycle works – yet Bosch claimed “no fault found.” I emailed twice on June 26, 2025, and called… Read more

to confirm receipt, specifically asking for management to contact me. No reply. No ownership. No resolution.

Bosch is ignoring customers and refusing to acknowledge repeated faults in a premium product. I’ll be sharing this publicly – Bosch needs to be held accountable.

Kel
KelWA3 posts
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Worked well for a few years but now its five years old its failing. Got a service call and apparently the compressor has a leak and is not a viable repair. For the price I really expected this product to last more than five years so would not recommend this product. Shame as we used to always buy bosch appliances but will rethink that. Show details

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Beag's
Beag'sVIC2 posts
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Waste of hard earned money! I purchased this dryer WTW87564AU from an online retailer January 2020, as I wanted a dryer that would be better for the environment and on energy and a large capacity for our clothes. Also it seemed to have smart features to adjust different loads etc. Seemed to work fine for the first 5 years, but the loads were… Read more

taking longer and longer and I would have to re-do loads as they were not dry.

Recently there was a metallic noise coming from the dryer. So we put less and less of a load in it.

On the 1/5/2025 the dryer has sheared off the centre plastic knob thing in the middle of drum. Upon investigation in the rear of dryer, there were multiple metal parts from behind the drum from around the centre bearing. Now this is only 5 years old and completely rooted.

This has been a disappointment having spend a lot of money on this dryer and now we have a piece of scrap metal. Bosch should be embarrassed about this dryer and how it has failed to delivery a quality product.

Now my family is faced with the extra cost of purchasing another dryer unit to get us through the winter.

This review went to mediation for 15 days for Bosch to reply, but they did not contact me regarding this dryer. Obviously they know this model is faulty and didn't want to assist us with any remediation.

Adrian B.
Adrian B.NSW
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After a decade with a budget dryer that was starting to show its age, we decided to treat ourselves to a Bosch as a more premium option rather than repairing our old faithful. Initially, it performed really well—thoroughly drying both light and heavy loads, including towels and bedding. However, over time it began to slow down. It started needing… Read more

extra time or even a second cycle to get things properly dry.

Now, just 2–3 months out of the two-year warranty, it's taking hours to dry even modest loads. Towels and bedding take so long that I often lose track—it usually stretches into the next day.

For a premium product to decline so soon after the warranty expires is really disappointing. And to make matters worse, the machine’s design doesn’t allow us to manually clean the condenser or internal components—something that could potentially fix the issue.

At this point, I’d struggle to recommend a Bosch dryer of any model. Bosch really needs to rethink its product design. Even if they promote it as “self-cleaning,” customers should still have the option to access and clean internal parts—especially if the product doesn't perform as reliably as Bosch seems to believe it will.

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Ryan K
Ryan K
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Worst appliance ever – Bosch should have recalled this model. It has well-known, major design flaws. The sensors are not sensitive enough and although it’s supposed to have a self-cleaning condenser, over time, this clogs up with lint. I have to restart the dryer multiple times (washing filters each time) because it turns off while the laundry is still very damp. It… Read more

now takes 7-8 hours to dry towels. It cannot be cleaned without taking the whole dryer apart. The drum rotates in one direction only, so bed linen always comes out in a damp ball. The Bosch services centre person sounded condescending and smug as she told me this was almost always due to customer failure to clean the dryer correctly. Yet, a retailer told me later models addressed the design flaws. Bosch, this was a rip off. I will not be buying your appliances again.

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Sarah R.
Sarah R.QLD
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Worst ‘Drier’ Ever – The absolute worst product I have ever owned. Do not buy unless you want to spend over 5 hours to half dry a load of washing. Regret this purchase Every. Single. Day! Photo below is another ‘hour’ long cycle for 5 standard towels that have already been in for 3hours!

L Ghastine
L GhastineVIC3 posts
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Extremely time consuming not ideal for a family – Takes hours to dry clothes up to 4 hours for bath towels it just doesn’t get hot enough Disappointing buy for expensive item Show details

Dave H.
Dave H.NSW
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Terrible Design - do not buy – Do not buy. This dryer has a terrible design that causes the condenser to block with lint that cannot be cleared by the user. Instead, the Dryer must be sent to a service centre to be completely disassembled so the condenser (which is buried deep inside) can be cleared of lint. Most other brands of Heat Pump Dryer have a user-accessible condenser… Read more

that can easily be cleared of lint via a handy flap on the front. Furthermore, most other brands have an additional filter immediately before the condenser that prevents most lint getting to the condenser. This Bosch Dryer does not have any such filter, which allows the build-up of lint much quicker. The result of the build-up of lint on the condenser is that the drying cycle progressively takes longer and longer to dry items (up to 5 or 6 hours for a load of towels - normal trying time would be less than half that). This dryer also doesn't have a reversing tumble action. This causes sheets to roll themselves into a tight ball as they only ever tumble one way. Most other brands of Heat Pump dryer have a reversing tumble action for the sheets program. I would not recommend this dryer to anyone - as a 'premium' brand, this is very disappointing from Bosch.

Heather O.
Heather O.
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Smelly water in condenser area – Bought series8 compressor dryer in 2023. Used top tray for first month and unit worked fine. Plumbed it up to under sink using a Y connector with washing machine on one side and dryer on the other. Started to notice laundry would get a damp smelly odour when shut up. Checked dryer condenser area and found lots of dirty smelly water. Not just a bit… Read more

of water, but lots and lots. Being a tech I searched for the problem and found when the washing machine pumped out through the Y connection under the sink there was enough pressure to push water up the dryer hose into the dryer even though the dryer is on top of the washing machine. Solution is to do away with the Y and keep discharge points seperate

Alan S.
Alan S.NSW
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Fails to properly dry clothes and takes a very long time 4-5 hrs – Series 8 looks great. We bought a matching washing machine and dryer. The heat pump method just does not work to a satisfactory level on this unit. Takes a very long time and never dry enough to put closes directly into a cupboard. My wife has had enough so even though technically this model is not broken. It just does not do its job. Avoid this model. Show details

Eb R
Eb R4 posts
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NEVER WORKED CORRECTLY – Bought from E&S heat pump dryer 3months after delivery had someone come out to assess dryer and it wasn't drying things still 2 years on, same problem E&S pass the buck to Bosch, or pass the job onto outside techs. Still not resolved.

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